Domina Kat Morgan

Parker

Welcome to the sex workers Guide to the Galaxy podcast. Where the answer to life the universe and everything are sex workers. I am your host, Parker Westwood. And I'm really grateful to be doing this podcast. This is the first episode. My voice is correct. This is the first episode. And I am really excited to get to introduce you all to someone I met for the first time because of this podcast. Katherine Morgan Domina, Kat Morgan is a Detroit based pro dominatrix, and an incredible storyteller as you will learn shortly. We explore the ins and outs of what it is to be a pro dominatrix and learn a lot about Kat Morgan in the process and what it's been like, through COVID what her life has been like battling cancer in recent past, and how she got started. So without further ado, I'm going to let Kat take it away. This is our interview. Thanks for listening.

Kat Morgan

Hey.

Parker

Hey, Kat. How are you?

Kat Morgan

Good. How are you? So nice to finally meet finally.

Parker

Oh my gosh, I know. It's I feel like we've been dancing around each other for a long time.

Kat Morgan

Alright, so this is a first ever for me.

Parker

Cool. Me too.

Kat Morgan

Oh Okay,

Parker

this is my first interview for the podcast, admittedly. So I

Kat Morgan

Oh I get to be your first.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

Well I'm flattered.

Parker

Cool. I'm flattered you you wanted to be on the show. I was like, I didn't ask anyone I know like, I know, in person right away. I was just like, I want to do I want to do a show where it's someone I don't know. Because then I'm asking questions more authentically, because I don't know anything about your life.

Kat Morgan

Correct.

Parker

So I think it's like a good litmus test almost. I'm excited. And then yeah, I have like little butterflies. I'm really excited to be able to talk to you.

Kat Morgan

Well, I'm a little nervous. I and I had all the questions at my place base. And like I wrote answers down. So I would have my thoughts.

Parker

Why don't you introduce yourself? To our listeners, like, who are you? And what kind of sex work do you do now?

Kat Morgan

Okay, so I am Domina Kat, Morgan. I'm a pro dominatrix. I've been doing it professionally for seven years. A true pro dominatrix many people say they are a pro dominatrix. But a true pro dominatrix never is nude and does not have sex or intercourse, she may wear a harness and use a strap on but subs Do not touch me or touch a true pro dominatrix. That is not part of it. And most times, they don't even get any type of release.

Parker

Interesting. It's more fun that way anways,

Kat Morgan

Right

Parker

to be honest. And how did you how did you get started in the industry? And then we'll get into more of the DOM stuff. But how did you get started in the sex work industry?

Kat Morgan

So eight years ago, I lost my corporate job. I was used to making close to 200,000 and I have no degree. And I lost my job. And I the economy was crappy, and I couldn't find another job making the same kind of money. And I had some medical issues with huge medical bills. So I was working three jobs, nothing was working. And I started online camming. And I was truly a nerd.

Parker

Yes

Kat Morgan

Sort of Navy business suit with my hair in a bun to work every day. And then the first time I went online as a cam girl, I was horrified. I was scared. I was terrified. But it opened my eyes to really who I am. And people online said oh, I should be a pro dominatrix I shouldn't do the normal stuff that cam girls do. And I said I didn't understand. Well, there was a online fan who said took me in a private show and said I am a master in another country. I would like to train you for free.

Parker

Wow.

Kat Morgan

Every couple of days. He would come on for an hour and he would sit and talk to me. And I asked why he would do this and he said you have the power You just don't know. And I want to see men and know that men are at your feet and treating you like the queen that you should be treated.

Parker

Oh my god, I love that.

Kat Morgan

And to this day him and I have never met, it's been eight years, he is my best friend yet we have not met in person ever.

Parker

God that's incredible

Kat Morgan

He buys almost all my boots all my latex, my high end clothing he loves he's now my emotional support. Almost like my therapist, if I'm stuck on how to get somebody to the next level. I brainstorm with him. But now for him, it's the reward of my hard work by listening to him and building my so called empire.

Parker

That's amazing. So he functions as like this mentor.

Kat Morgan

Yes

Parker

And helped you build what you have now,

Kat Morgan

right. And initially, I would like text him and say, I don't know what to do, this is what's happening, or this is what I have coming up and I don't know what to do. Now he says he can't get as freaky as I am. Because I've gone to other levels that surpass his

Parker

amazing.

Kat Morgan

So he is not into like knife play and other things in that nature or electricity. His level is more of the mind. So he's helped me with the mindfuck in all of this because it is the mind. And then I share or sometimes if I question myself after I do a session, he helps me understand that it's okay, cuz I'm providing a service.

Parker

That's, uh, sounds like an incredibly special relationship to have with someone.

Kat Morgan

It is.

Parker

Yeah, so

Kat Morgan

It is very. we love each other, but we're not in the same place.

Parker

Right. And you so you had never really had a foray into the BDSM community. You'd

Kat Morgan

None whatsoever. I was always told my whole life. I was bossy I was had to have everything my way. My parents are from Europe. I don't know that they understood. And they say the best Dom's are trained by a military a Marine Corps drill sergeant.

Parker

That checks out. Wow,

Kat Morgan

that I have that in my life. And I tell everybody I did 17 years in the military, so to speak. So often, I think of my childhood, when I'm providing discipline.

Parker

Yeah. Important. That is really cool. Um, so. So you started camming? Eight years ago, and how long were you camming like how long did you continue to Cam before you moved into Pro dominatrixming?

Kat Morgan

Well, during the cam time, one of my everybody, I had several people that told me I should do this in real life. And somebody gave me a name of somebody who would help build me a website and teach me how to screen. But I was afraid. And I worked 25 hours a week doing cam stuff. And I made $45,000 In the first year.

Parker

Wow.

Kat Morgan

And I thought that was pretty good money.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

ized that when I got my first: 1099

Parker

Yeah, absolutely. It's pretty remarkable. How often sex workers are taken advantage of in on platforms like that. But also I come from stripping. So like even at strip clubs.

Kat Morgan

Yep

Parker

Yeah, the amount that were cheated out of at every level is pretty wild.

Kat Morgan

It is.

Parker

So you went straight into pro dominatrixming and after camming for only three months, was it three months of camming

I cammed for a year. And then I launched this this side of my world, online I was Roxy.

Parker

That, very nice.

Kat Morgan

Right? But I didn't think that was a good mistress name. And so then I needed to invent a new persona. So I cammed for about three months while I built this industry. Now I have I control my world, my life when I want to work. I have a company name, I pay people to help me do things. It is a business. If anybody says it's not it is.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

because I pay I mean, I do taxes I do everything that a real business owner would

Parker

absolutely. Hire people. You have expense reports, all the things.

Kat Morgan

I wish somebody would do that. For me. That's my weakness.

Parker

Oh my god I know. I love spreadsheets, but I do whenever I have to think about money. I'm just kind of like someone else do it. Yeah, I I'm still stunned that you didn't really get into the BDSM community before becoming like becoming a pro dominatrix. So that's really, really cool. When people were like, Hey, you should be doing pro dominatrix work. What was your first impression? of the work itself?

Kat Morgan

I didn't understand 100%. Most people think when you go to see a dominatrix, it's especially people that don't know, they automatically think they're going to get beaten. And I explained to them, just because I'm a dominatrix doesn't mean I'm going to beat you a good pro dominatrix. A great one, because I know I'm a great one.

Parker

Yes,

Kat Morgan

a great pro dominatrix gives you what you want. But she serves it, how she wants to serve it.

Parker

Can you just repeat that one more time,

Kat Morgan

a good pro dominatrix gives you exactly what you want, but she serves it, how she wants to serve it. A bad pro dominatrix gives you what she wants. So an example is and I have a 98% return rate, I actually track who comes back. There is a dom in Michigan that has never had a repeat client, yet she touts she's the best, I'm like well you can't be. The only reason I have openings is because of the COVID. So many of my people lost their jobs or their spouse lost their jobs. So that's I didn't have an opening to take anybody new for almost 18 months. So my new people are thrilled that my former subs lost their jobs. And my former subs that are in a different financial position are terrified I won't have a spot for them when they come back.

Parker

Yeah

Kat Morgan

I'm like, Oh, if you're good I'll have a spot for you if you weren't.

Parker

I love that. Yes.

Kat Morgan

So another just a little something. When I first got in my first two years, I never ever laughed. I was always stern and always strict.

Parker

Wow.

Kat Morgan

And really severe no matter what I did and one day, I was doing a session with a sub that's six foot eight. And I really don't remember what happened. But I busted into a fit of giggles to the point I was laying on the floor with tears streaming down my face not looking very Dom-like, I couldn't control myself whatsoever. And he looked horrified. And I said, I'm so sorry. I'm just gonna end the session give you your money back because because this was so unprofessional. And he said, you have the scariest laugh. You laugh like a witch. You should always laugh because at my size the hair on my neck stood up.

Parker

Oh my God, that's incredible.

Kat Morgan

I said nobody has ever told me that I laughed like a witch. And he goes, You did? You do and you're scary. So now I laugh. And everybody tells me that so I guess I could have been the Wicked Witch in the Oz.

Parker

That makes me so happy.

Kat Morgan

So now if I'm gonna laugh, I laugh.

Parker

Yes. I think that's an important part of this work too is I I felt like I had to have such a strict persona for so long, or like be in quote, unquote, in character. And the more I've allowed myself like my authentic self to show up in a session, the more fun it is for everyone.

Kat Morgan

Yes.

Parker

Yeah. So I love hearing that.

Kat Morgan

So a lot of and this is a big thing out there too. So I just want to touch on this when I said a good, a true pro dominatrix gives you what you want, but she serves it. So an example would be because I learned this, I always asked when somebody says, Oh, I went to somebody else. And this is always like, Well, why did you leave? You know, what is it that they did? So I can learn from that person's mistake.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

but a lot of people will say, subs, oh, I'll do anything. That is not true. Most people will not do anything. And I always tell people be really careful. I'm a kind person, I can be severe, I can cut you with a knife, I can shock you to all hell. But I truly care about human beings. So a sub that came to me said he was not into forced bi, or gang bangs, right. And he told his mistress that he would do anything. Once she had him tied up. He was abused in a very, he was in essence raped, he never went back. He didn't see a DOM professional DOM for years, because he was terrified as he should be. So I tell people be really careful. Everybody's required to do homework before they see me. I need to know what's inside their head. I study the medical aspect, the Fetish aspect and the psychological aspect. We go over medical each and every time because I don't want anybody to die on my dime. If somebody's ankles are swollen, I'll know that maybe they didn't take their heart meds so they can't see me.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

I can't take that risk. So it's important I tell people do not say I will do anything.

Parker

Yeah, that's that part of like honesty and communication that we talked about earlier. It is so key, and so many people want, they want to please and so they especially subs, right? So they feel like they have to say, I'll do anything. And it's like, how about be honest? Like, how about that part?

Kat Morgan

Right, right. So I tell people, if you don't do your homework, you just don't see me. Because based on your homework, it allows me to ask some more questions. And the homework is in several parts. It allows me Well, there's two things, it allows me to understand them. But it also builds the foundation of people think of me, all the time, you will crave me I tell them you will crave me when you leave. When you're banging somebody else you're gonna think of me when you're at work, and you're having a hard time you're gonna think of me, I will consume your thoughts. And I'm fully aware of it. And that's okay. That's why you book a session to fulfill that need.

Parker

Yeah I love that. I mean, that's the that's what we strive for. Yeah, absolutely.

Kat Morgan

So, I know I veered you off on your questions. I'm sorry.

Parker

No, that's the entire point of this I had. That's why I only plan like six or seven questions, because I know, well, I know how I am. I'm a Libra and an air sign. So I'm all over the place. Yeah, that's so if one of my questions is like, how long have you been in the BDSM community?

Kat Morgan

And like we talked about that.

Parker

One I would love to talk or would love you to walk us through is like an average day of work for you like what does that look like?

Kat Morgan

So I don't do anything really late at night. My personal choice, I feel that the people that want a session at midnight, they may have other motives or ulterior motives and my safety is always first and foremost. So my day starts at 5am Because I am a morning person People think I'm crazy but some people are a night person

Parker

bless your heart,

Kat Morgan

I, I put on my workout clothes, because I have my coffee and I start returning my emails and I start posting on Twitter. But at five foot two, even though people say by my pictures I look substantially taller, I'm only five two, and I'm like a size two, I need to be able to maneuver people that are six foot eight because I actually have my largest client is six foot nine and I have five at six foot eight. So when I'm roping or tugging or pulling, I need to be able to make sure that my core is good my back is strong enough my legs are strong enough so then I work out first thing in the morning because otherwise I won't do it. I hate working out

Parker

same

Kat Morgan

so I do my Netflix and I work out that's I permit myself because I'm like crazy routine. Almost like military style like okay, I get to Netflix because I'm working out if I don't work out you don't get Netflix. So if I'm in the middle of a series and it's like you don't you just don't get it.

Parker

I love that. That's so smart that's like mind fucking yourself into working out. I love that

Kat Morgan

right? And then if it's like a hour and 50 minutes show or two hour movie, you actually get a longer workout.

Parker

I might steal this from you, this is

Kat Morgan

you may, I might text you and say, What are you Netflixing?

Parker

What are you watching? Yes!

Kat Morgan

then I usually have my first appointment by 10am. I don't do quantity, I do quality. When somebody does a session, when a sub does a session, it takes 48 hours for them to truly process a session. It also takes me time. And I never used to give myself that time. Because I might do two sessions in a day. And I might do or I might do a six hour and then the next day to two hours and then an hour one that I was burning myself out and didn't realize it until the COVID hit. So the good thing that came out of COVID was I realized, God, I never get a break. So when I set up for a session about a half hour first session, I review, always the morning of during coffee, I review my notes, their homework, so that I really got their homework embedded in my head, I usually set up while I'm having my coffee, because by touching each toy, each piece of equipment, it helps me go into the headspace I need to go into and every session is different. If it's cross dressing that I don't have to go deep. If somebody is a true masochist, I can't talk to anybody for several hours beforehand, because I have to take myself to a really dark place for me to beat them until to give them what they want.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

if it's whipping them until their bleeding, if it's cutting them with a knife, if it's running needles through their body, if it's a combination of all of those things at one time, sometimes people say do you get turned on? I feel like no when I'm touching you, because often my hand will caress their body, I'm actually checking their pulse, checking their breathing, making sure their hearts, okay, and we're not racing out of control, because I don't want somebody to die because I have people that will do electricity, needles, knife play, and other stuff all at one time. So if you're putting four or five things into the mix, my goal is to still give them what they want, but not to harm them.

Parker

Absolutely. And I don't think a lot of people get how much focus that takes,

Kat Morgan

right. And then after a session, because I'm OCD and people should be ever so grateful that everything is

Parker

yes.

Kat Morgan

Some people are like you wear so many gloves. I'm like, do you want disease,

Parker

right?

Kat Morgan

But every toy that I touched has to be sanitized every piece of equipment and now because of the COVID. When they leave, I wash the bathroom walls, every light fixture, every door, I spray all the furniture, the dungeon furniture I go through, it takes me couple hours to really do everything good. And then I need to shower and then I need to decompress before I can do another one.

Parker

That's amazing

Kat Morgan

So now if I do more than one in a day, they have to be spaced out.

Parker

Yeah, absolutely. There's so much more that we have to think about now that COVID is a is a factor. Yeah, what is um, if you don't mind me asking because I know like our decompressing decompression routines and all that stuff is a bit personal, but like what does it look like for you to decompress?

Kat Morgan

I usually put on my workout clothes and depending on the weather, but there's days where it's storming and I just grab a coat and I will walk in the rain. I need music, music. If I don't have music. I can't. But it's usually something physical. It might be a bicycle ride, it might be a walk, it might be a little bit with weights, it could be the punching bag. Not normally running, but I might power walk my power walk is probably most people's jogs.

Parker

Very nice.

Kat Morgan

But I have to do something physical to like, let it go. I have one person that books a very extended and it's usually a 14 hour session and he's a masochist. When I get done with him once I sanitize and clean. I pretty much need three to four hours just to sleep because I'm mentally and physically completely wiped.

Parker

Yeah, 14 hours is a long time to do any kind of work,

Kat Morgan

Right.

Parker

Not to mention, like emotional like deep dive, dark masochistic work.

Kat Morgan

Correct.

Parker

Yeah

Kat Morgan

Correct.

Parker

That's impressive,

Kat Morgan

Right? So a lot of people don't understand. And most of the time, I never slip, slip really, really deep into headspace unless I'm doing a really long session. But I have to draw on my demons, very dark demons in order to provide what they need. As weird as that sounds,

Parker

no, that's

Kat Morgan

everybody got to get it how they need to get to where they need to go.

Parker

Yeah, that makes so much sense. And then needing to differentiate yourself from your demons afterwards.

Kat Morgan

Correct

Parker

makes a lot of sense.

Kat Morgan

It's like you open a little box, you let them come out to play. And you shove them all back in there and you close the door and you move on. And then I have too often I do like, I call it normal people things before I crash and might have to go walk around Lowe's or Fred Meyer and I have to interact at a very vanilla level. There's a little tiny restaurant, a little diner that I used to go to all the time if I did something really intense. And I would sit at the counter and just talk to people there because it allowed me to reconnect until I was ready to crash physically, and then I'd go to sleep, then I'd be like, okay, I'm good. I gotta go now. I used to do, I was told I was good when I did pain. And then one day, I had what I deemed as terrible news, medically. And I was really upset. And I wanted to cancel my session. And I thought, well, if I was in corporate America, I wouldn't cancel, I'd still have to go to work. So when I did this session, without really putting a lot of thought into it, I took the anger. Like I took everything I felt for that phone call, and I put it into my whip which probably isn't really good. But when I got done, my sub said, wherever you're at in your head today is where you always need to be today you were superior, draw on that demon. And I thought, oh, that's crazy. And then I did another session the next day, but I was still feeling from the news I received still anger and why me? And I directed and he said the same thing. So as terrible as it sounds. If I have somebody that is really looking for an incredible amount of pain, I draw on that phone call. I put myself right where I was. I keep it right at the top. I do my session, and then I let it go.

Parker

That sounds incredibly therapeutic. Like I mean on both parts. But I mean for you specifically like to be able to. I mean, for me at least like as a, like a fem-identified person in this world. We've been socialized to not really express our anger.

Kat Morgan

Correct.

Parker

So that sounds liberating as all hell to me.

Kat Morgan

Well no, I didn't know that I should say this one. So I got into knife play. And I know that my sub will listen to this when it airs.

Parker

Mm hmm. Good sub.

Kat Morgan

Yeah. In the beginning of COVID, he said, If you could do anything to anybody give me five things. I hadn't really thought about like, hurting anybody or doing anything. He goes, everybody has stress. So just write five things. So I was kind of being a jerk. And I said, Oh, if I could like waterboard somebody cuz I haven't done that in a while I would if I could put somebody in a chair, gag them and pull their teeth. I would. If I could take a knife and carve their body with my name. That'd be awesome. And I don't really remember what the other two were. But it was all kind of as a joke. So he responds with you can't waterboard me and you can't pull my teeth but I have purchased you a beautiful new knife. I would like to do knife play. And when he said that, I thought, hmm, I don't think I could ever cut anybody. Realistically. And sometimes in anger. I may have said like well I'll cut you. But I've never really cut anybody like I've never hurt anybody with a knife. So he brought me and gifted me this beautiful knife. And the first time I looked at it, I thought, oh, there's just no way I could cut him. So we kind of geared it toward and he said use it whenever you feel you're ready. He was blindfolded. He was tied down. And I was Sitting on the bondage table. And I was, I will not lie. I was terrified. But we had already played for probably 12 hours. And I started running the knife, but I didn't see any blood and I was just carving my initials on his chest. And he said, press harder. So I did. And then I seen the blood and I seen the DKM come across his chest. It dropped me into a headspace I had never experienced and I started an overwhelming crying like I couldn't tears were just falling on his body. So I got off the table wiped my face unstrapped and wiped off his chest. But for him too it was powerful. And he said, Why did you cry? And I said, because I just realized if I had to, I could cut somebody. I've always threatened but I didn't know if I could. And now I know that if you are mean to me, I could be like, I'm gonna cut you. And yeah, I'll probably enjoy it.

Parker

Oh my god

Kat Morgan

But it was so powerful because it was the first time and to see like, I mean, how many people really walk around with a knife carving their initials other than in like weird shows on TV maybe?

Parker

Right, right for Hollywood.

Kat Morgan

Right.

Parker

But like in real life? Yeah.

Kat Morgan

Right. And now, it's not as emotional for us. But we still do it. He visits me once a month. And we still, but it doesn't sink me there. But it was a realization that Oh, I really like this does that.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

And then that's where I call my mentor. And I'm like, Am I weird? Because like, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I wish more would let me cut them and pay me.

Parker

Absolutely.

Kat Morgan

right

Parker

And that was that was one of the moments where your mentor was like, I can't go with you there.

Kat Morgan

He's like, you're way further. I've never played with knives. I don't. He said, But what you need now to do is book a spa day. So often he'll send me like Pay Pal me money. And he's like, You need to go to the spa. Go get your nails done. Go get your facial, go do something for you.

Parker

Yes.

Kat Morgan

Not for your family. Not for your friends. But for you. And that's I usually do that I go for a pedicure or massage or a facial. But for me.

Parker

Yeah, absolutely. I love this man already.

Kat Morgan

Right

Parker

I’m like, just like yes. Yeah, cause self-care is key is key. We can't We can't keep showing up in the way that we want to if we don't refill our coffers.

Kat Morgan

Right. Yeah, exactly. So that's been my journey. I started light. And I continued to grow. Sometimes saying, Well, I don't think I'll ever do that. And then the next thing you know, I have a new toy. And I'm like, I'm like, the knife. Oh, I wouldn't do this.

Parker

better learn how to use it. Yeah. So cool.

Kat Morgan

Same with needles. I took some classes. I spent all the money on this beautiful needle kit. But then I I was my daughter actually let me practice on her.

Parker

Cool.

Kat Morgan

And then I was just afraid to stick people with them. And then once I did it the first time it's like, okay, this is kind of fun. Actually it's therapeutic almost like yoga.

Parker

Yeah, it's

Kat Morgan

Or meditation.

Parker

It's amazing how nerve wracking. Some of the stuff can be initially. And then you're just like, oh, oh, no, I can see. I can see this now. I get it. Yeah, yes. Okay, one more question. And then we'll get into the rapid fire. What is something you wish more people would understand about sex work or being a pro dominatrix in your case?

Kat Morgan

That I don't have sex with people. That truly, so I used to do senior care and that was rewarding. That was so rewarding, because people came there and you change their lives, but they came there to die. And that wrenched my heart. Day after day, people dying in my arms. I couldn't. So when I lost my job. I didn't want to do that. This is more rewarding because people share with me their darkest secrets. And I'm like their therapist. I've had more grown men cry because of the release of being able to be who they want to be, or do what they want. And it truly strengthens for the guys that their wives don't know. It strengthens their marriage. But some people come as couples but it's truly therapeutic. And I don't people that are are not into it don't see it that way. But it truly is. And that the letters I have and I don't know if you can see there's a box behind me.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

that is filled with just letters of gratitude

Parker

to the brim. Yeah.

Kat Morgan

To the brim. And that if I ever feel bad or question, I just start reading those because they are powerful about how I've changed somebody's life. And that's what I love.

Parker

The stigma that comes with doing any kind of sex work will make anyone doubt on a bad day in particular.

Kat Morgan

Yes,

Parker

yeah,

Kat Morgan

yes. And we shouldn't be like that. Whether you're a companion whether you're a stripper, whether you're a cam girl, an only fans person, it shouldn't matter. We're working.

Parker

Yeah, Yeah. And it's valued obviously. Right.

Kat Morgan

Right. Otherwise, they all wouldn't be out there.

Parker

100% Yeah, there we wouldn't have jobs.

Kat Morgan

Exactly.

Parker

Okay, are you ready for some rapid fire questions?

Kat Morgan

This is the part that scares me but I've got my whip

Parker

Yeah you've got your whip and I'm ready for that. Um, so these are basically just like first thing that comes to your head just answer it that way. So the first one is complete the sentence good sex is

Kat Morgan

kinky.

Parker

And what is your go to comfort food?

Kat Morgan

ice cream

Parker

very nice particular flavor?

Kat Morgan

Vanilla

Parker

Yes. Love it what movie or TV show Have you recently become obsessed with?

Kat Morgan

Schitts Creek.

Parker

Yes,

Kat Morgan

that's hysterical. I just finished the last season.

Parker

Well that's amazing. We need something to make us laugh too during these times.

Kat Morgan

So I never ever watch TV. But something personal bumped me as I've gone through cancer for the last two years.

Parker

Wow.

Kat Morgan

So I've had a lot of time off with chemo where I was not allowed to leave my home for six weeks. Six week increments so I had to learn how to watch TV and I learned about Netflix cause I never used to watch TV. So I did the Ozarks, Queen of the South, loved it also had things to educate me and helped me in my BDSM world

Parker

yes

Kat Morgan

because yes do painful things, same with Ozark

Parker

We love a little bit of research.

Kat Morgan

Right but Schitts Creek was my most recent like I just Oh, they have another season now. It's gone. It's like now what?

Parker

Right?

Kat Morgan

Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

Parker

No, that's perfect. I love it. Um and then favorite sex toy or prop.

Kat Morgan

Hitachi the wand everybody should have a wand in their goodie bag. If you don't, I will get you one and I will get you some attachments because hands down. I will make sure that you have the time of your life and I will teach you when people say why are you happy? I'm like the Hitachi the wand.

Parker

Mm hmm.

Kat Morgan

When, my hair was long I would dry my hair and use the wand and release endorphins and dried my hair.

Parker

Oh you are a multitasker I like this about you it's such a good one too. Everyone should have a Hitachi wand. You if you were to win an all expenses paid trip away for a weekend anywhere in the world. Where would you go?

Kat Morgan

I only get a weekend?

Parker

Yeah in this you only get a weekend in this particular situation.

Kat Morgan

Well then you've got to travel like all those hours. You want to go far because then you waste your fun time

Parker

or you get the weekend. There like at the place. How about that?

Kat Morgan

Australia.

Parker

Australia?

Kat Morgan

I've always wanted to go but I've never gone.

Parker

That sounds wonderful.

Kat Morgan

It's for the Aussie accent though. I'm afraid of what I might do. Like just close my eyes and say hey

Parker

it's so sexy.

Kat Morgan

I know. I would have sex with everybody.

Parker

they probably would not mind that.

Kat Morgan

Here. Could you read me this book? I have an Aussie sub. When he flew in to see me. I made him sit and read to me

Parker

I love that.

Kat Morgan

I'm like just read to me

Parker

what was it you said earlier they they deliver what you want but in,

Kat Morgan

I deliver I deliver what they want, but I serve it how I want to serve it.

Parker

Exactly that.

Kat Morgan

So, but he has this phenomenal accent so and all during chemo, he would call and talk to me when I was like trapped. He's like, I'm just calling so you could hear my and I wish I could mimic the accent but I can't. It's about my cheer up. While while I would go he would call and just talk to me.

Parker

That makes my heart so happy hearing that. Okay,

Kat Morgan

It's a good sub. Okay.

Parker

I know what a good sub Um, okay, a book that you consider mandatory reading?

Kat Morgan

Um I don't know.

Parker

I know this one's hard.

Kat Morgan

No cuz I don't ever refer books. I have all sorts of books. But I don't refer I mean, because I'm always reading books on psychology.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

Or success or money. A lot of psychology books because of what I do.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

So I don't have really one that I would I can't answer that. I'm sorry.

Parker

Well, even in those even in those genres, is there one that's like, I don't know that really affected you?

Kat Morgan

Probably a book that affected me a long time ago was I think it's Dale Carnegie the sevens something to success?

Parker

Oh yeah.

Kat Morgan

That's right. It's all about success. So you keep planted in no matter whether you do sex work, or you're in sales, or whatever, there's the same steps that you need to do to be successful. And sometimes people say, Oh, must be nice. You're lucky. I'm like, No, I work hard. There's marketing. There's branding. There's advertising, there's learning about products, keeping up with your people, there's follow up it just not people showing up and I swing a whip.

Parker

Right. Exactly. There's so much more

Kat Morgan

right or even for an only fans person or a stripper. They they have to purchase clothing they have to dance they have to have music they have to have routines they have to be will be working out so their bodies perfect and.

Parker

Yep And marketing still applies and like keeping up with your people still applies? Yeah, it's people don't understand but it's actually work.

Kat Morgan

Right.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

I'm sorry.

Parker

Okay, what about an album or musical artist you've been grooving to lately?

Kat Morgan

Um Machine Gun Kelly.

Parker

Yessssssss. That checks out. Yeah.

Kat Morgan

He does a song with Eminem. It's called bad mother.

Parker

Oh my god. Yes. I feel like I've heard that on the radio.

Kat Morgan

That motherfucker is the song. And sometimes when somebody is not quite sure once they're secured, and they're not quite sure cause look so. Soccer Mom, like, if they're worried that I can't pull off the discipline and what they want, then I will put that on. I'm like yeah, here's my go to song.

Parker

Yes. Like, get ready. Amazing. And what is your favorite quality about yourself?

Kat Morgan

My favorite is probably my heart. It's probably too big. My heart is really big.

Parker

I can feel that from here. Yeah, maybe not too big. But you have a very big heart.

Kat Morgan

My subs all know that I'm there for them. Even if they're not doing a session. If they're struggling. I have people that take care of their parents or somebody ill. I will meet them for lunch when they need to get away. Do I get paid for it? Nope. Not at all. How I get paid is that maybe one day it'll come back to me and how it has come back to me. I use one guy that he's a single man that works and was taking care of his mom, his dad and his aunt, as well as working and one day I called him I'm like, Dude, we're gonna go to lunch. Just person to person. He said I don't have time I said you have to make time. If you don't, you will snap. He said that was the best gift of all. He is one of the several people that checked on me wanted to send me money. I didn't ask for any because I don't when I was going through round and round of chemo its my kindness is my testament of what they did for me when I was off. So I think that's the best is is my genuine heart even though I have a naughty mouth sometimes.

Parker

Yes. That's one thing I think people don't understand about sex work is that it is relationship building.

Kat Morgan

Correct.

Parker

Yeah. And that's it's just like a really beautiful thing and a testament that your subs show up the way that they do. Because you show up for them.

Kat Morgan

Correct. And they all when I used to travel or even even now if there's bad weather they all send me I can't tell you how many send me weather alerts. Not sure if you're at the office or your home, but there are tornado warnings out please be careful. Or when some of the protesting first started please. Like where are you at? Be careful or the people that know where I travel to. Please be careful this is going on or there's a snowstorm coming and they will track me not that they have GPS, but it is a level of care for their mistress. They don't want me hurt just as I don't want anything to happen to them.

Parker

I love that.

Kat Morgan

So it's as weird as it would sound to maybe somebody outside the industry because I think whether you're a dancer and only fans person, a companion a dominatrix. If you're really good at what you do you have those relationships.

Parker

Absolutely.

Kat Morgan

And they're they're strong. I mean, I've seen people for solid seven years that's longer than any dating relationship.

Parker

Oh my god same. I'm just like what?

Kat Morgan

Probably cause they don't have to have any closet space.

Parker

You take your toothbrush,

Kat Morgan

Rigth? Right? There's is no drawers for you. My boots have the whole closet!

Parker

Absolutely. A whole closet for boots is a dream of mine. So good. So out of curiosity. You are You are officially like cancer free and everything with that?

Kat Morgan

Ah, no. Are we ever really?

Parker

Right that's fair?

Kat Morgan

Yes. I just so mine is skin cancer.

Parker

okay

Kat Morgan

So the importance of a facial. I've never treated myself to a facial and I bought a series of six, three years ago. And I went for two these like, like, I don't remember they were some sort of Scrubs to make your lighter, brighter and all fancy. The third one, the first two were done by one person. The third one, the first lady had been in a car accident or something. And the woman said, Hey, you have this little spot on your chest. How long has it been there? I'm like, oh, about nine years it comes and goes. She said really? You ever have it looked at? I said yeah. I was told it was eczema, it's no big deal. And she said, That's not eczema. And she went and got a doctor. Doctor came in, looked at it said we're doing a biopsy right now and I was like oh no, I'm here for a facial. And she said, No, that's cancer. And if it's been there nine years, we have to make sure it's not near a lymph nodes. We need to know what kind it is. So they did a biopsy. Two days later they called said we're going to do surgery. And I'm like, Okay, well, I'm not like really ready for this. She said you do you want to die? I said no. She goes so you gotta come in. So they did across my chest. They did 30 stitches, but you can't even see the scar.

Parker

Yeah, wow.

Kat Morgan

And then it kept coming back. So then after about a year, she was like, We got to start chemo and I will not lie. I cried. When she told me I had to have chemo. She asked if I felt sorry for myself. I said yes. So she introduced me to a 26 year old woman who just came back from her honeymoon a week ago. Her skin cancer already got into her lymph nodes. And her diagnosis was she has three to six months to live.

Parker

Oh my god.

Kat Morgan

So I stopped crying. And I said my my oncologist said, fight. It's not in your lymph nodes. So that was the first they do third degree burns. Like your face, my face, neck and chest. I thought I would be scarred for life. On the flip side, the good news is it's made me look younger. Cause it burns your face off and then when they told me I had to have it again. I'm like, that was like crazy. You can't cry because you have third degree burns and your tears have salt. So you can't cry when there's pain. And you can't be near any sunlight. So all your blinds have to stay closed. You can't go anywhere because you're a open wound. So you have to stay at home and do nothing.

Parker

Oh my god

Kat Morgan

So I did that in: 2019

Parker

I do indeed. I grew up at a in a hippie high school and I went to a hippie college. So I, I I used to have the attitude of like, well we're going to get cancer from everything. So like I was I was also a smoker for a while so I it was more of like a Fuckit attitude. And now I'm just kind of like a everything in moderation sort of attitude.

Kat Morgan

Yes.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

Yeah. So we just I take each day and I dread going every three months because it's like, what else are they going to find? But on the flip side, I check all my subs body, I'd be like, Okay, you need to make yourself a doctor's appointment. This is what I found.

Parker

Oh, that's amazing.

Kat Morgan

You need to make an appointment right away. I find a mole that shouldn't be there. You need to or this one's really grown. If you don't do an appointment, I won't see you no more. And they'll do appointments. So I've had several that have had removals but they don't see their back. Or they might not see they might not check.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

Cause I see them. So now because I have to check every day. I look at everybody through the eyes of my doctor.

Parker

Yeah,

Kat Morgan

Oh well,

Parker

you got to go get that checked out. I love that. You have such a contagious positive attitude. i It's been really incredible to get to talk to you. I don't want to like overstep our hour

Kat Morgan

I just this has been fun.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

Doing this with you has been like, your energy is so good. It's so good.

Parker

I feel the very same like this has been, I came in super nervous. And I was like, I don't know, like, is she gonna like me? And then?

Kat Morgan

Did you really?

Parker

Oh, yeah, I'm I like, I really appreciate the work that you do. And I'd love to know more. And I'd like to

Kat Morgan

Can I tell you one more story?

Parker

Please I love stories!

Kat Morgan

So when I was at the Janice dungeon, about six weeks ago, this couple came in, they are in their 70s, because she volunteered the information. She had a walker, he had a cane. And I said, first time in here? she's like, Oh, no, honey, we've been coming here for years. I said, awesome. She goes, he's my sub. And he's been such a good boy. I'm buying him a new collar. I said, How long have you been married? She goes, since we were in our early 20s. And we're in our late 70s. Now. I'm like, good for you. They have kept it real for all these years, even with her walker and him with his cane. Isn't that awesome.

Parker

That makes my heart so happy. And that's when people when when people are like, Oh, you don't want to be doing this into your old age or whatever people say like into your 60s and I'm just like, how do I know? What if I do?

Kat Morgan

like look at captivating Cory. She's 60 like 61 I think now.

Parker

Yeah exactly. It's just like I it. For me, it's building relationships, and I want to be building relationships my entire life. And so who's to say I don't want to be doing this work.

Kat Morgan

and you can actually help people.

Parker

A lot of Our job can be these like therapy sessions and especially working with like, working with couples. Sometimes it's like this is this is how you communicate you kind of lead by example.

Kat Morgan

Correct. Yeah. This has been fun.

Parker

Yeah.

Kat Morgan

I'm so flattered. I was picked for first one.

Parker

Yes. I just like I've been itching to get to talk to you. So this has been really wonderful. And I thank you so much for taking the time. And let's let's please hang out sometime for lunch.

Kat Morgan

Lunch?

Parker

Yeah, I would love that

Kat Morgan

Something healthy in moderation?

Parker

Yeah. All of the above.

Kat Morgan

All right. Great. Thank you have a great day.

Parker

You too! I'll talk to you soon.

Kat Morgan

All right, bye.

Parker

Bye. So that was my interview with Domina Kat Morgan. I have put all of her links in the show notes. So you can find her on Twitter, and Instagram anywhere else that you might be able to find? Domina Kat Morgan. If you want to support the show, I have created a Patreon. So you are welcome to support on Patreon. Or just tell your friends about the show. Word of mouth is incredibly powerful. And I appreciate it all. I've also got my own my own stuff in the show notes in case you want to follow me. So I thank you so much. This is a journey and I'm really grateful to have you all on it with me as listeners. And any feedback you have for me would be wildly valuable. So feel free to write in. The email for the podcast is sexy galaxy pod@gmail.com. You can also follow us on Twitter at sexy Galaxy pod. So thank you again. I hope you have a wonderful day and have enjoyed the show. May the force be with you. Or nanu nanu or however we're gonna sign off on this show. We'll figure that out. Live long and prosper.