Elliot Emerson

Parker

Welcome to a sex workers Guide to the Galaxy where the answer to life the universe and everything is sex workers. I'm your host, Parker Westwood. And today we get to have a fantastic conversation with Elliot Emerson of the Emerson Experience podcast. They also have a couple different collections of candles for, for purchase, which we will talk about later on in the episode. In this episode, we talk about review boards, podcasting a bit, her relationship to her body, and a recent plastic surgery that she had, and talking about how people perceive that, and how how she felt about getting plastic surgery. And again, we talk about the candle business side hustle and just like her creative brilliance in general. I'm really excited for y'all to hear this episode. Elliot, it was just a peach to talk to and I just want to get a few things about the show out of the way. If you want to support the show, you can find us on Patreon at patreon.com/sexy Galaxy pod, you can find us on Twitter at sexy Galaxy pod and we have a website that is linked in the show notes. So, you can find all the episodes there as well as on any platform you find your podcasts. Obviously, you're listening to this so you already know that. And a sex workers Guide to the Galaxy is brought to you by Companion Tax. If you are a companion and you want help with your taxes, go check out companion tax.com. Alright, now we've got all that out of the way. Let's jump into the interview with Elliot Emerson. Here we go. All right, I'm here today with the one the only Elliot Emerson.

Elliot Emerson

Hi.

Parker

Hey, Elliot, how you doing?

Elliot Emerson

I'm great. How are you Parker?

Parker

I'm doing really well. Thank you for being on the show. Why don't you take a moment to introduce yourself with name, pronoun, where you're located, if you care to share, and what kind of sex work you do.

Elliot Emerson

Well, I'm Elliot Emerson, pronouns she/her, I'm based out of Dallas, Texas, and what I like to refer to myself, as a the girlfriend experience or GFE provider.

Parker

Love that. I also heard you say on your podcast, which we'll talk about in a moment. Influence-whore, which I personally really love. So, thank you for that.

Elliot Emerson

You're welcome.

Parker

Um, how did you get started in sex work? What is your origin story?

Elliot Emerson

Well, I think I started almost like everyone else, which I won't say everyone else that started this way, but more than a few of us have started with sugaring. So, I moved to Texas from North Carolina for a civilian job, I wasn't making that much money here and I just was trying to figure out what I could do to, you know, make ends meet. And I got on to seeking arrangement, unfortunately, or that website that must not be named or talked about, and I just had really bad experiences. I had maybe like one or two good experiences, but most of them were pay per meet. So, I had a friend that was just completely honest with me and said, look, you're really busy with your regular job. You really don't have the time to commit to be a sugar baby to be up somebody's ass 24/7 basically, so why don't you just become an escort instead? And I said, ah, that doesn't sound too bad. I guess I'll try it. So, for about a year before I created Elliott, I would just like meet guys and tell them what my rate was and just see if I could just go and do it and leave and be okay with it so, I did that for probably an entire year.

Parker

Wow.

Elliot Emerson

And I was like, yeah, I'm okay with it. So, I guess I'll go ahead and make this persona and make the website and put my money into this photoshoot and that's how I became Elliot.

Parker

Oh, that's amazing. Sugaring takes so much more effort for an uncertain amount of money that like it really does make sense to shift into escorting or GFE. Did you have a different name when you were, just when you were trying it out for a year and seeing how you felt?

Elliot Emerson

Oh, yeah. Probably had several different names but I think I the name, I use usually was Harper.

Parker

I love that.

Elliot Emerson

Because I read all these books on sugaring, like, don't use your real name, I mean, it's pretty similar to escorting when you think about it.

Parker

Yeah.

Elliot Emerson

Don't ever give them all this information, your real information unless you trust them, but I just never really, I don't think I've ever met anybody that I gave my real information to other than maybe like, one or two sugar daddies.

Parker

Right.

Elliot Emerson

That's about it

Parker

It, may I ask you, this is not on the list of questions like, now I'm curious hearing the name Harper. Do you intentionally gravitate towards gender neutral names?

Elliot Emerson

Absolutely.

Parker

Oh, I love you.

Elliot Emerson

I told [garbled]. Those are my favorite names and they just keep things clean. They keep things inconspicuous, if you see that name in your phone, or if somebody you know, usually these clients or these guys are married. If you see that in their phone, they're not really gonna think twice about Elliot, maybe Harper, but yeah, I just like it like that. And I've wanted to change my name. But I'm like, I can't find I can't decide on another gender neutral name that's better than what I already have. So.

Parker

Oh, yeah. Elliot is great. I think you're, you're rocking it.

Elliot Emerson

Thank you.

Parker

Cool. I love hearing that. You are also the host of your very own podcast.

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

Which I before I launched this one, I went and listened to your podcasts all the way through, all the episodes you had at that point.

Elliot Emerson

Oh wow.

Parker

Yeah. Because I, at the time, I think there were only four, four other sex worker podcasts that I knew of. Um yours, yours included and so I just really wanted to see what, what you had going on and you're in your most recent episode. You talk about that you started it because you are averse to review, review boards.

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

And I resonate with that, and on a deep level. So, I thought we could start talking about review boards a little bit and like, why, first of all, talk about your podcast for a moment and then, like, go into talking about why podcasting was a better idea than involving yourself in review boards.

Elliot Emerson

Absolutely.

Parker

Thank you.

Elliot Emerson

Um, podcast, podcasting. It was just an idea that I had one day after listening to, and I will always shout them out, Vivian, and, and Chantal. Yes. [garbled]

Parker

[garbled]

Elliot Emerson

Thank you with the Sexy Escort Guide. I would really enjoyed listening to them and they were helping, you know, reach clients and providers, but I just wanted I had an idea. I'm like, if people can actually hear me, I mean, I'm already faced out, I don't know how much more exposed you can be to the clients in the industry than to be faced out. But I'm like, maybe if they can see my face and hear my voice and hear a little bit about what I want to do and the things that I enjoy and the things that I could do, as far as what I enjoy what type of experience, I provide what I expect from the people who see me, I figured that would be better than a review, in my opinion.

Parker

Yeah. And just for the listeners who don't know what a review board is, would you mind kind of explaining what a review board is and what they're used for.

Elliot Emerson

A review board, from what I from my understanding, which I've tried to get in and out of several years, usually I just end up not even logging back in after I've created an account. Review Board is where a lot of clients, they call themselves hobbyists, go and they find escorts or companions, and a lot of escorts and companions, advertise there. So, what they basically do is to vet you and show that you are a real person and you're worth it to them. You're worth whatever they're, they're wanting to pay, they go ahead and review you with a list of acronyms. I remember the last, not this time that I joined a review board, but the last time and I just like peaced out on it. I saw a specific term called mommy damage and I'd had I had like enough. I'm like mommy damage? Like how are we being subjected to this type of abuse and behavior when we can't even go back and say, okay, well, you weren't the best looking person either. But that's not what it's even about you know, it's more about the connection for me, but these people usually on these review boards want to know X, Y, and Z. They want to know that you're going to give them a blowjob without a condom, are you gonna let them cum in your mouth, or all kinds of things that are incriminating so basically, that's what review board is and review culture.

Parker

Yeah, I thank you for that. Because it's I haven't ventured onto review boards myself, because I've just, the concept of them is abhorrent to me. I think it's disgusting. Like, we both know, because we're in the industry, but like, every relationship I have with each individual client is different and, and that's like, where review boards don't make any sense. And it's just this version of objectification and like, it really just rubs me the wrong way and I don't want any part of it. So when you were just kind of like I did a podcast so I could get away from review boards. I was like, yes, please. Thank you.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah, it's just not my it's not my thing. I mean, I tried it for a little bit just to see how would that change the clientele, but I don't think it made it any better. To be completely honest. And I even saw photos of somebody on there and I'm guessing they gave permission to the client to post them but I was like, that's just way a bit way too much for me.

Parker

Agreed. I think it's a, it's an invasion of privacy, and it, it cheapens the relationships that I'm cultivating with my clients. That's like the, the thing I feel about it.

Elliot Emerson

I agree.

Parker

Why. It's, I wanted to ask you like, why do you think sex workers feel the need to be involved on these review boards? So, if you have any insight on that?

Elliot Emerson

Well, for a lot of people, that's what helps them maintain business. And I have nothing against that but that's just not the business model that I model my business after.

Parker

Yeah, well, and I think too, with the, with SESTA FOSTA and a lot of the ad sites, either being completely shut down, or just like not being trafficked by clients, like clients aren't visiting as many of these web, these ad sites but they are going to review boards.

Elliot Emerson

Yes, there's just so many, and we're trying to, to get them off of the review boards and just to use the advertising sites instead.

Parker

Yeah, come over to Tryst or whatever, but come over to something else just get off the review boards.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah, please get off of the review board. I mean, I'm not, I just, we've got a I think one or two big ones here in Texas and I just I can't deal. There's like a specific group of people that won't, they refuse to pay over a certain amount for any encounter and I'm just like, wow, this is insane. I can't believe people want to water down companionship, so much that they are entitled to having all of these services for X amount of dollars.

Parker

Yeah. And it's like, that's totally cool if that's your budget, dude, but don't think that my services are priced according to your budget.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah. just find somebody that you want to see, don't try to force us all into charging something that we don't want to charge or that we're not comfortable charging.

Parker

Exactly, exactly. Um, I'm going to pivot a little bit away from review boards, because I think that, I think that we've covered as much as we can about review boards.

Elliot Emerson

It's depressing.

Parker

I know, it's depressing, it's depressing. And I I'm always just kind of like, oh, I wish they didn't exist, or I wish there was one that was like sex worker run, where there was a little bit more rules about, like, what was posted, there was more respect for the sex workers. Yeah, and like an understanding, but there.

Elliot Emerson

Maybe one of your listeners can do that, maybe we've sparked some interest. Hopefully.

Parker

Hey listeners, if one of you can do that, I'll help moderate.

Elliot Emerson

That would be awesome.

Parker

Yeah, that'd be great. Um, one of the things that you wanted to talk about and I'm really excited to talk about this with you, is your relationship with your body.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah.

Parker

So first, before we talk about your relationship with your body and sex work, if you wouldn't mind sharing a little bit about what your relationship with your body has been like, like up until you got into sex work.

Elliot Emerson

Well, I've always thought that I was never thin enough for some reason, and I grew up with a competitive dance background. So, it just always seemed I was always exercising and always dancing. So, I was already thin but it just always seemed to never be enough. Now that I'm in my 30s, and I go back to look at those photos, I'm like, I was perfect. What was wrong with me? But I don't, I don't know, I guess it's just society tells you just to be thin, thin, thin, as thin as possible. I remember wanting to do ballet and pointe and thinking I'll never be thin enough to do that and they actually encouraged that, that's why a lot of ballerinas have eating disorders.

Parker

Yeah.

Elliot Emerson

Not all of them, but a lot of them have. So, I was just like, I'm not down with that. I started to dance professionally, and I still didn't think I was thin enough and now it's been a, it's been a journey to just actually appreciate and love the body that I'm in now. But you have to because that's the only body that you have and you're beautiful no matter what I believe and I believe that about other companions and I believe that about my clients.

Parker

Absolutely. I talk to people about. because people always ask me, like, what are like, what's your sexuality? Or who are you attracted to? And I'm just like, honestly, I don't like I think bodies are fun, like, it doesn't matter what body you have, as long as like the person on the inside is someone that I can vibe with, then, then we can have fun.

Elliot Emerson

Always.

Parker

So, I agree, I think it's, um, society does teach us. I mean, capitalism thrives on, on us thinking we are not perfect and striving for perfection and spending money on all these things.

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

And specifically, people who don't fit into like Western beauty, like very white supremacist beauty standards. Right?

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

So, one of the things I wanted to ask you about too, is like, as, as a black woman, what are some of the things you do to like reclaim your body? And like subvert the narrative that, that you've been taught about beauty?

Elliot Emerson

Well, I think the first thing that we have to do is realize that a lot of what society is telling us is popular now like full lips, full hips, huge asses, where does that all originate from?

Parker

Right.

Elliot Emerson

Hello, that is us that that, I mean, we are naturally this way. So first, we have to understand and recognize that and basically, I just tell society to shove it because you've taken you've taken everything, the essence of black women and put it into other cultures and you want to say that we are not beautiful, but this is where everything came from.

Parker

Exactly.

Elliot Emerson

We are the epitome of beauty, of beauty, of the beauty standards right now, at least which things are changing. I mean, I'm so happy to see things are changing, and people are becoming more aware of that, especially in this industry. I just think it's gonna take a lot of time for those beauty standards to die out, the old ones, you know, blond hair, blue eyes, super thin. But I feel like there's somebody out there for everybody, every body type. And I used to be really self conscious about being a black companion, but I'm not anymore. I swear, the older I get it's just the more I'm just like, fuck it, I don't care. Like either you, you see me I present this to you. You see me, either you want it or you don't, if you don't move on.

Parker

Yeah.

Elliot Emerson

I mean, I just I just, I want everyone to embrace their beauty, their curves, their lack of curves, all of it.

Parker

Yes, the diversification of our beauty standards, please. Yeah, I also I resonate too with this. As I've gotten older, I give fewer fucks it's cause, I used to give, I used to want to be everybody's type. I've said this before on the podcast, I wanted everyone to want me and that's what would make me feel valid, especially as a stripper, especially in this industry. It like makes you feel financially stable and worthy and like all these things. But as I've gotten into my 30s, god bless the 30s, I've also just like I don't give a fuck what other people think and there's people out there for like, who are my my folks, and like, who want me and same with you. Like there's people out there who want you and those are the people that are worth like our attention and the other folks if they don't want it then like awesome. Go on your merry way, there's plenty of other people out there for you.

Elliot Emerson

And no one can be like everything to everyone. I mean, it's just stressful anyway, when you're trying to be that.

Parker

Yeah. And I find that there's a lot of like, we'll, we'll touch on the review boards again for a moment, but the guys on the review board, board seem to think that like, what they desire is what everyone else desires.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah.

Parker

This like, assumption that there's one sort of, yeah, beauty or like, what is sexy or what is desirable? And that they can call it out and like nitpick on, on providers. And I, it's gross.

Elliot Emerson

What I like to call that is a one size fits all approach and that's not how, that's not how any of this works. That's not how sex work works sorry.

Parker

Those body suits, one size fits all those body suits never fit, right.

Elliot Emerson

Never. It's not like you can do like, everybody wants this, everybody wants that. No, some people seek out a companion for a specific reason and others for another. So, you can't just say, hey, she did this, this, this and this, but what about if I just want to take somebody out on a date and just talk to them?

Parker

Yeah, like, this person may not have the knowledge of astrophysics that I really want someone to have so I gotta find somebody.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah, you never know.

Parker

I love that. I, um, is there anything that you do specifically, like for your body to, to, like, show that you, you care for it? And love it? Like, is there a ritual that you like to do for your body?

Elliot Emerson

Um, what I do is just try to treat it as best as I can. And that means exercising and eating, right.

Parker

Yes.

Elliot Emerson

And looking at myself in the mirror and saying, you are beautiful, you're hot, lke, damn, that's, that's sexy today, like, look at that ass. Like, people might think I'm vain, but I will look, I will always look in the mirror when I pass one.

Parker

Oh, yeah. A little vanity never killed anybody. You know?

Elliot Emerson

I don't think so. Not at all. So, I mean, I've just grown into loving my body as I get as I've gotten older. I don't know. It's just what else can you do? What other options. I don't have time to be sad or upset, especially about something that I can change. I mean, you can always modify some things with your body. If you want to, if you don't like that. You know?

Parker

That's very true. I'll ask you one thing. And then and then that's a really good segue that I want to jump on. How has sex work changed your relationship with your body?

Elliot Emerson

Oh, I'm just a lot more comfortable I feel like because of sex work, a lot more aware in my body, especially during you know, being intimate with someone. And it feels like I can be able to voice my opinions and boundaries and concerns a little bit more clearly now than I could before, even in a civilian setting or like a civilian date. Now, I can actually speak up and be like, ou know what, I don't I don't like that. Can you do something else? Or like, that's too hard, that's too fast, go slower. But I really think sex work has enhanced my relationship with my body.

Parker

Yeah, I mean, declaring boundaries is like a trust building exercise with your body. Like your body trusts you to be able to um request, its desires or protect it from what it doesn't like.

Elliot Emerson

Yes, yeah, protection is most important most definitely.

Parker

Agreed. I love that. Well, I'm jumping on this perfect segue you set up. Speaking of you can always change your body, and like plastic surgery, body modifications was something that you had indicated you wanted to talk about. Have you have you had plastic surgery or any kind of body, body modification?

Elliot Emerson

several years, probably since: 2018

Parker

Did you go bigger or smaller?

Elliot Emerson

I went bigger, go big go home. Everything's bigger in Texas.

Parker

Yes, baby.

Elliot Emerson

And my doctor was like I told you, you could go bigger but like you don't have to be like obnoxious and I'm like listen, who is paying who here? That's just I just want to make sure we're on the same page. Big like, let's go big.

Parker

I love you. But also how okay, so when you were thinking about having, having your breast augmentation done, what was the thought process like? And when, when did you decide to actually go through with it?

Elliot Emerson

A lot of people would tell me, um, you don't need that but I knew for myself and what the look that I wanted to achieve that I just wanted a little bit more fullness towards the middle of my chest, I just felt like it laid to a little bit too flat for me. So I went on several consultations, and a lot of people told me I needed a breast lift, but I'm like, in my late 20s, and I've never had any children. So, I was just thinking, this is insane, because the incisions for that type of procedure are usually just like really intense. And so, I did not want to do that until I finally found a doctor here in Dallas that said, hey, I think I, think I have a solution to what you're wanting and instead of going underneath a muscle, I'll go above the muscle and I think that'll give you the look that you want without having to have a breast lift. And you can always come back. If you decide you do want a breast lift, and we can see how you scar, because I hadn't, have never had any major surgery before. So that was a really big concern to me, especially being an African American and scars being darker.

Parker

Right.

Elliot Emerson

So, I just finally decided when the doctor finally said, hey, instead of saying no you can't do that, or I won't do that, he compromised with me and said, yeah, I think I can do that. So that was the doctor for me.

Parker

Cool.

Elliot Emerson

And so, I decided to well, I wasn't sure about doing it, then let's see, we had the I had the consultation last summer and then on my 31st birthday, I said that's what I'll do for my birthday during a pandemic, which is just bizarre, but I'm like, I can't go on vacation so, I guess I'll just get some boobs or something. That sounds fun.

Parker

I love it. Yeah. It's so great. Um, after you got the surgery, how did, I mean obviously, I wanted to ask like, how has, did, did your, the way you see your body change. But of course, like visibly the way you saw your body changed, but like the way you felt about your body did that change at all?

Elliot Emerson

I felt like I was balanced out if that made sense. Like because of the curves that I have on my hips and things like that I just felt like I was evenly proportioned. I mean, I was fine before anyway, but I just, I really liked it.

Parker

Cool.

Elliot Emerson

Especially like the well, though, I forget what they call this some phenomenon where you're like super kind of swollen and your implants haven't like dropped and fluffed is what they call it.

Parker

Oh yeah.

Elliot Emerson

I really liked that look. I'm like, ooh, do I want to go back? But I'm like, no, I don't think I'll go back. Right now.

Parker

Where they're like a little abnormally, like, perky and up yeah.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, ooh, I really like that.

Parker

It's so fun. Um, what is something that you wish people would understand about plastic surgery or body modification? Like the greater public? What's something you wish they'd understand?

Elliot Emerson

I wish they would understand that it is our body and our choice to do that. It doesn't make us any less than anybody else who is all natural. And I feel like that's like a selling point for some companions. Oh, I've never had any surgery, I'm all natural. I don't think I mean, I mean, that's beautiful to not to feel like you've not had to have surgery, but I just wish people would not put it in such a negative light and I think the more that plastic surgery gets popular, the more that myth will kind of fade away that it's like a bad thing. I mean, I applaud people who can actually afford to have plastic surgery, and go through the healing stage of it, because it sucks, it's not fun. But at the end, when you've achieved the result that you wanted to it's awesome, it's beautiful, and you feel like confident in your body. So, I just wish more people would look at it that way in a positive light. There's nothing wrong with having like a little modification here and there. I mean, for some people, it's a hobby, it's a lifestyle choice. It's, it's kind of addicting. Like they say like, I kind of wanted another surgery, but who knows, I may or may not and a lot of people just don't want to talk about it. Which I think that's extremely unhealthy to say you haven't had surgery and then have people try to obtain the same results as you when there's no way possible you can do it without the surgery.

Parker

Right. Oh, yeah. That sounds like me with tattoos. The like, Oh, I just want to go get another one now. But I think you're right. I think it's, there's people who want to say they didn't have it because there's shame. There's stigma around it.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah.

Parker

And if we could eliminate the stigma, I think one of the things that comes as I'm listening to you, comes up for me is that people who get plastic surgery aren't always doing it because they're not happy with their body they just see something they want to change.

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

It's not necessarily like, I like I hate myself and I have to change this thing. It's just like, I'd like to change this thing. Just yeah.

Elliot Emerson

It's like an elective option. You know, whatever.

Parker

Almost like getting your ears pierced.

Elliot Emerson

Yeah, just like that.

Parker

Yeah, just a lot more expensive.

Elliot Emerson

A lot more expensive. Oh, my goodness.

Parker

Oh, my goodness. Did you notice after you got your breast augmentation? If that changed your work, or how you interacted with your work, or how clients interacted with you? Did you notice anything there?

Elliot Emerson

Um, I noticed people would not when, I mean, how can you not notice these? People would I mean, clients would say, wow, like, those look really good and I'd, say thank you. And they say they look really natural and I'm like, thank you that's what we were going for. Yeah. So, work has been pretty good. It's just you have to tell people like we were talking about earlier boundaries. You have to be like, very gentle now, especially after I had surgery, like you just can't go like pulling on those things, or gnawing on them. Whoa, slow down, cowboy. And even now, still, I'm like, a little bit sensitive, but like, I'm good for the most part but I was terrified to have sex,

Parker

Oh I believe it.

Elliot Emerson

After surgery.Yeah, I had to just wrangle a friend and say, hey, can we try this? Can I just try it with somebody I'm comfortable with first before I go back to work? That's.

Parker

Oh that's so smart. Oh, I love that.

Elliot Emerson

He, but he knew to be like super gentle. He's like, oh my god let me get you a pillow. Let me, okay, only let's do just this one position. I'm like, this is not how real sex works but thank you, I'm so appreciative.

Parker

I love that you're like, you sound a little bitter. But you’re also just like so grateful/

Elliot Emerson

When I think about it, it's so cute. Like, let's just get this pillow, let's put this pillow underneath you.

Parker

It's really sweet, there's a reason you trusted him for sure.

Elliot Emerson

Oh, boy.

Parker

Oh, I love that. Oh, that's so good, that is so so good. Um, wow. I think, I'm almost done with the questions that's like bananas. Oh, oh, this is an opportunity. I wanted to give you an opportunity to promote your candles because you are also a maker which I love about you.

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

And you've started this. You launched this candle business, was it over quarantine like earlier this year?

Elliot Emerson

Yeah. Last year? Yeah. Last year I started it, I started to just make candles. When they weren't well, everything was opening back up in Texas around a March or April I think. And I went into Bath and Bodyworks and like no candles were on sale. And I'm like, I just want to light a candle. I'm so stressed out.

Parker

Yes.

Elliot Emerson

I'm like, no candles are on sale. Okay, great. I'll just go home and figure out how to make my own candle. What? Who thinks of that? I don't know. And then I just ended up on YouTube a never ending like black hole of making and crafting things. Oh my god. And so finally I got the materials and I taught myself how to do it but that's funny that you mentioned it because that's what I was doing this morning and almost forgot about this interview.

Parker

I'm glad you remembered, but also love that you're making candles. How can people purchase your candles if they if they feel so inclined?

Elliot Emerson

Okay, so we've got a few options here. I have an Etsy shop, and I have two Etsy stores. So, I have one that's just my original candle store. That's class and kitsch. So, it would be etsy.com/shop/class and kitch oh my god, it's like a tongue twister. And then I have another shop that's more geared towards sex workers and I'm looking for a cause to donate to. Usually, all that money it just sits like I don't spend it I don't live on it off of it or anything like that from those proceeds. So, I have that second candle company it's called Whore Candle Company. So, I'm working on like both of those today and whore candle company usually it just has like little funny cute sayings for things in the industry like today, I'm probably going to be putting up a candle that smells like blueberry cheesecake and I named it dads who go down.

Parker

Oh my god you're brilliant.

Elliot Emerson

I mean, it's based off a tweet I wrote. I was like, god, they're so wholesome. I love them so much, dads who go down, also dad's making breakfast, but that's something completely different. So yeah, and then class and kitch will have all of my fall scented candles because that's when I originally started selling them last year was fall and I was just like, I didn't know what I was doing. I was just buying all these different fragrances I thought would smell good and hoping that they worked just crossing my fingers. But this year, we've got a plan. So, we're going to start for fall now and I've got today let's see bonfire caramel apple, let's see oh, pumpkin pecan waffles, which is really good and I hate pumpkin. Like with a burning passion.

Parker

Yeah, but with pecan? Sign me up.

Elliot Emerson

So good. It's so buttery and sweet and it's, it's not like super overpowering. So, I'll probably be making more of those today and what I'm going to do every month until let’s see December, it's just gonna be like four to six different scents and when they're sold out, they're sold out and then the next month it'll be a different set going into Christmas and you know, so that'll be fun, I think. I hope

Parker

Yes. I love that. Have you considered as what like with your candle company, have you considered branching out into like incense or anything? Anything similar?

Elliot Emerson

Okay, so I have reed diffusers, but I just, I haven't made those yet. I just want to, I'm a perfectionist and I want to perfect it. So, I also have for people who don't like candles a flameless alternative and that is the wax melt those little wax melt cubes.

Parker

Oh yeah.

Elliot Emerson

That you put in a warmer, so I have those as well. And I'm thinking about doing room sprays too. So, and I feel like that really sets the mood for an appointment. When you have like a candle or like a nice scent, or even if you are not keen on any fragrance, I'm about to do some unscented things too. So, we've got options for everyone.

Parker

I love that you're so versatile. Cool. Let's keep in touch about the candle thing because I think I have some collaboration ideas. I'll talk to you.

Elliot Emerson

Oh, awesome.

Parker

Are you ready for some rapid-fire questions?

Elliot Emerson

Oh god, I guess so. Let's do it.

Parker

Let's do it. Okay, the first two are, like easy just to get you a good feel for it qnd then the other ones are a little harder.

Elliot Emerson

Okay.

Parker

Okay. Pancakes or waffles?

Elliot Emerson

Pancakes.

Parker

Salty or sweet?

Elliot Emerson

Salty.

Parker

Um, what is the, your favorite place you've ever been?

Elliot Emerson

Oh, man, this one is hard. I would say there's two places. I'd say Vancouver, British Columbia and then I would say San Diego.

Parker

Oh, I love that. Those are both really good.

Elliot Emerson

Yes.

Parker

What is a book from your mandatory reading list?

Elliot Emerson

Oh, the 48 Laws of Power. People think I'm crazy for saying that, but I think it's a really good book.

Parker

I don't know.

Elliot Emerson

by Robert Greene.

Parker

Robert Greene. Yes. Is it, is it about like power, power structures? Or is it like getting power for yourself? Or what are?

Elliot Emerson

Well, it's about I would say power structures like things people have done in the past to maintain and to be powerful.

Parker

Cool.

Elliot Emerson

It's a little bit of history, well, not a little bit, a whole lot of history.

Parker

Hell yeah. I was hoping that was the answer. Because I was just like, it's it sounds like it could be like a self help book title but that sounds more like.

Elliot Emerson

Well, it is it's a little bit of both.

Parker

Okay, cool. Cool. I love that. I'll check that one out.

Elliot Emerson

You have to, let me know what you think.

Parker

I will I enjoy. This is me being awful at rapid fire questions. But I think understanding power structures and how they how you relate to them is a really important piece of fucking the system. We'll just say that.

Elliot Emerson

Oh, you most definitely will enjoy that book then.

Parker

okay, good. Good, good. What is a song, an album, or a music musical artists that you've been obsessed with lately?

Elliot Emerson

Ariana Grande. And it's so funny you asked me last night I was just like so into this song. From her Dangerous Woman album Touch It. I love that song so much.

Parker

It's so hot.

Elliot Emerson

Oh, it's such a hot I mean, and I had never even listened to that song until I watched her concert on Netflix. I guess. So, like, I think I had Dangerous Woman but I just listened to the few songs like Dangerous Woman and Everyday I love that song with her and Future.

Parker

Yes.

Elliot Emerson

But yeah, Touch It. It's just like such a hot song and it just makes me think about it puts me in the mood to be Elliot, I think.

Parker

Hell yeah, I love that.

Elliot Emerson

So, I love that song.

Parker

What is your secret talent?

Elliot Emerson

Secret talent. Oh no.

Parker

I love this question.

Elliot Emerson

Wow. Me thinking without it being like lewd or anything? No, I don't.

Parker

I mean, it can be lewd. if you want to go there. This is, we don't have to censor on this show.

Elliot Emerson

Hmm. A hidden talent I don't know, I really don't know.

Parker

I know. making candles isn't hidden so we can't go there.

Elliot Emerson

No, it's not hidden.

Parker

But I didn't know you could dance. Can you?

Elliot Emerson

Well I'm like, I like to do like a little bit like I used to do like a lot of stripteases on my OnlyFans.

Parker

Yeah.

Elliot Emerson

Um, so I would say that probably would be like a hidden talent because not a lot of people. I mean, people say they, they dance, but I try to put videos up.

Parker

Yeah. And you're also like trained like, you're a trained dancer.

Elliot Emerson

Yes. I've been dancing since I was little bitty, like two years old. So maybe you could say that and then I would also say another hidden talent is I'm a great kisser. I've never received like, well, no, usually other people are bad kissers, but I'm like, also, I'm just really good at that. But I don't know if that's hidden I mean, you wouldn't know until you kiss me.

Parker

True. I look forward to the experience one day. Finish this sentence for me. Good sex is.

Elliot Emerson

Fun. Good sex is fun, and you can laugh during it. I don't know why people think sex has to be so serious, it does not.

Parker

Oh, it's like one of the things that drives me. The craziest is when people are trying to be so serious. I'm glad I'm glad you said that because I think laughing during sex is one of my favorite things

Elliot Emerson

It's sexy.

Parker

It's sexy, thank you. If you had one superpower, what would it be?

Elliot Emerson

Hmm. Let me see one superpower. I think it would be I would say to fly. That's my first instinct. I don't know, I don't know. I would want to fly or have like, or some super like psychic powers, like some strong intuitive power where I could just read people's minds. That would be really cool, I think.

Parker

Yeah, I like that. I mean, reading people's minds could be dangerous, because I think people think a lot of things that I just don't want to know about but some people say those things out loud snd I still don't want to know about it.

Elliot Emerson

Ohhh yeah.

Parker

But I also think it would be wildly interesting if you could like shut it off and on, I think

Elliot Emerson

Yes, it yeah. If you, definitely if you could shut it off because I just always like look at people and I want to say, I want to know what they're thinking when they do certain things.

Parker

Yeah, yeah. Oh, I like that. What is something simple that brings you joy?

Elliot Emerson

Oh, sunshine.

Parker

Hmm. I love that.

Elliot Emerson

Always sunshine, just being warm, being in the in the light. That is something simple to me that always brings me joy and happiness.

Parker

That's perfect. That's so good. Well, that brings us to the end of all of my questions. Is there,

Elliot Emerson

I did it.

Parker

You did it, it's done. Relatively painless, right?

Elliot Emerson

Yes. not bad at all

Parker

Oh, cool. Well, we let's, let's say goodbye to the listeners.

Elliot Emerson

Bye listener.

Parker

Bye listeners. Thanks for joining us, Mwah

Elliot Emerson

Mwah

Parker

And there you have it, folks, the wonderful Elliott Emerson. I don't know that I've quite figured out how to sign off on these interviews, because I just end up talking to them for a little while afterwards. But it's cute, right? We're just, it's cute. I want to thank you all for listening. I really appreciate you listening to this podcast. I think I say that every time and I mean it every time it is so freakin cool. We just surpassed a total of 20,000 downloads for the entirety of this podcast existing and I'm going to celebrate when we get to 25,000 because I like those intervals but I thought I would just let you all know because it is a really beautiful little landmark and I am just constantly humbled by the fact that people actually listen to this podcast. So, thank you for being here. Cool you're great. Space fact, space fact. So, if you're like me, you're wondering how the hell do I get off this planet at some point? Well, the answer is that you have to find these like sparkly technicolor dream shoes, platform boots, and click your heels together three times and say, there's no place like time, here's no time like place, over and over again until you leave the planet or until you go mad. But, you know, good luck. We're all we're all trying here trying our best. Save the planet, y'all, like respect the planet? We do, we, it's the one we got? That's my space fact for today. I love you all. Nanu Nanu motherfuckers.